Converting 3D Coordinate Measuring Machine (CMM) data to SusProg3D strut dimensions
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Often, vehicle manufacturers and professional car builders are able to provide coordinates for the various suspension points, usually obtained with a very sophisticated (and expensive) 3D Coordinate Measuring Machine. Usually these dimensions are "ground based".
This tutorial is intended to demonstrate the conversion of Coordinate Measuring Machine (CMM) coordinates to the SusProg3D coordinates, particularly to obtain the SusProg3D strut coordinates.
The CMM data supplied for this exercise was provided in imperial dimensions, and was in the following format.
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X |
Y |
Z |
|
Front suspension - RH |
|
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|
|
Wheel centre |
-83.501 |
29.778 | 3.270 |
| Axle end point |
-83.501 |
23.795 | 3.121 |
| Strut rod top, chassis strut mounting | -82.193 | 19.173 | 22.913 |
| Strut rod bottom | -84.492 | 23.945 | 8.500 |
| A-arm ball joint | -83.945 | 26.772 | 0.654 |
| Steering arm balljoint | -89.012 | 27.898 | 1.598 |
| Wheel offset | 0.984 |
The critical requirement, is that the data must provide two data points on the wheel axis. Usually one will be on the wheel centreline, and the other will be on the axle end. These points will enable all the strut coordinates, wheel alignment (camber, caster and toe), and track to be determined.
You will need SusProg3D, version 4.51D (or later) to get the latest CMM to
Strut tool.
This tutorial requires a registered copy of SusProg3D. It will
not work with the demo version.
Start SusProg3D.
This tutorial will use imperial units, and a custom axis system to match the supplied data.
Hint for Metric users.
After completing the tutorial and saving the
data file, reset the units to Metric. Close and reopen SusProg3D, then open the
data file. It will automatically convert from imperial to metric, and display
all dimensions in mm.
Go to Settings -> Settings -> Units. Select Imperial, then OK.
Just by looking at the supplied data, it can be seen that X is the longitudinal axis with +ve rearwards; Y is the lateral axis with +ve RH, and Z is the vertical axis with +ve upwards.
Go to Settings -> Settings -> Axis System.
Change the lateral axis
identifier to "Y" and "+ve RH"; the vertical axis identifier to "Z" and "+ve
up"; and the longitudinal axis identifier to "X" and "+ve rear". Click OK.
Check that the wheel mounting flange dimension is correctly
specified.
Go to Settings -> Settings -> Wheel mounting
flange.
Select Offset, then OK.
Close SusProg, then restart it.
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Before using the CMM tool, we need to specify the basic vehicle configuration and reference data.
Select the Vehicle tab, then each of the following items in turn.
Config
For the front geometry, choose "Strut". The remainder of the items can be left as-is.
Click OK.
Datum
Although not obvious from the supplied data, the CMM vertical datum is actually 9.226" above the ground, which corresponds to a "well known" chassis location point. So add a note to the vertical datum Z "Chassis location point".
Our longitudinal datum is a point in back of the vehicle, probably the same "well known" chassis location point, so add a note "Chassis location point".Click OK.
Front Wheel
The only thing we need is the offset (0.984") and the toe reference length (25.000").
The other dimensions are guesses. They are needed to show a reasonable looking tyre in the display.
So assume a 17" rim diameter , an 8" wide rim, a 8" tread width, a 9" tyre section width, and a 1000lb/in tyre rate.Make sure that "identical" is ticked. Click OK.
Rear wheel.
There is no need to enter the rear wheel as we are only doing the front suspension.
This has now completed the basic vehicle data. At this point it is probably wise to save the data.
Note that we have not entered enough data for a Geometry calculation, but only the minimum data for the CMM tool.
Go to File -> Save As.
Specify an appropriate directory and file name.
At this stage there is no graphic display, other than a small cross in the centre.
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Now we can enter the CMM dimensions.
Select the Tools tab.
We are designing the front suspension, and will input data for the RH
side.
The first menu item should be [Front]. If it is [Rear] then click it,
and change it to [Front].
The next menu item should be [LH]. If it is [RH]
then click it, and change it to [LH].
Hint: If the CMM data has one side of
the vehicle with +ve lateral dimensions, and the other side with -ve lateral
dimensions, then always use the side that corresponds to the +ve dimensions. We
chose RH because the lateral dimensions are +ve RH. If you have the lateral axis
+ve LH, then choose LH here.
Select the CMM tool, and the CMM Setup tab.
As we had noted previously, the vertical datum used by the CMM is a chassis reference point, and is 9.226" above ground.
So specify the CMM datum offset Z = 9.226". Leave the Y and X at zero.
Add a note "CMM vertical datum at chassis reference point".
Now switch to the CMM to Strut tab.
Enter the CMM coordinate data
The spindle/wheel centre dimensions are: Y = 29.778", Z = 3.270", X = -83.501"
The spindle reference dimensions are: Y = 23.795", Z = 3.121", X = -83.501"
The strut rod top dimensions are: Y = 19.173", Z = 22.913", X = -82.193"
The strut rod bottom dimensions are: Y = 23.945", Z = 8.500", X = -84.492"
The wishbone balljoint dimensions are: Y = 26.772", Z = 0.654", X = -83.945"
The steering arm balljoint dimensions are: Y = 27.898", Z = 1.598", X = -89.012"
The strut top mounting dimensions are: Y = 19.173", Z = 22.913", X = -82.193"
Calc.
Just click the Calc.
This will do all the calculations.
If the wheel spindle is not on the strut rod axis (in side view) then this will be shown as “Strut rod axis to spindle offset”. The strut dimensions are all calculated relative to a vertical strut rod axis (in side view). In this example, because the longitudinal axis is positive rearwards, the positive value indicates that the spindle is behind the strut rod axis 1.819", hence the strut rod X data points are negative (ie in front of the spindle by 1.819").
If "identical" is ticked, then the specified CMM coordinates will be calculated for the opposite side of the vehicle as well.
Hint.
Even if the vehicle is not symmetrical, it may still be quicker to assume that it is, as this will mean that the other side CMM data is set to the same is this side (with the sign change for the lateral dimensions). You can then "swap sides", open a second CMM tool, and then change whichever dimensions are different, without having to reenter all of them.Press Control+S and save the CMM data.
Vehicle
If the vehicle is symmetrical, then tick the “identical” box, and then this will update both LH and RH struts.
If the vehicle is not symmetrical, then leave this box unticked. You will then need to switch sides, open a second copy of the tool, and input the CMM data for the other side. Remember that if you are doing the side which is the negative lateral axis, then all the lateral dimensions must be entered as negative.Save the CMM data, use Control+S as a shortcut for File | Save.
If you want to use these calculated values to update the vehicle data, then press “Vehicle”.
The strut dimensions will be carried over to the Geometry | Strut input dialog, the strut type will be set to “Fixed knuckle/strut A” and the steering arm location will be set to “knuckle”.
The tyre rolling radius will be carried over to the Geometry | Wheel input dialog.
The wheel alignment and location will be carried over to the Geometry | Alignment input dialog.
Now we have the strut dimensions, plus the wheel alignment, tyre rolling radius and the wheel location.
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Well, that's enough for this tutorial.
Now we have the strut dimensions, wheel and tyre dimensions, and basic setup alignment.
You can now enter the rest of the data, such as chassis mounting points, ride heights etc.
Note that the CMM data is stored in the SusProg data files. After doing the geometry calculation, you can look at the results, and verify that the calculated points agree with the initial CMM data.
Now, it is easy to start varying.
What if a smaller tyre is fitted?
What if the camber is changed?
All of this without having to recalculate the CMM coordinates! And that is the main advantage of having the strut coordinates in their own axis system. The freedom to move and realign.